Cigna is a bunch of murderer’s
their latest victem is Natalee Sarkisyan, a 17 year old girl who had cancer. the murderer’s said as it was “experimentle” and therefore they refused to cover the transplant needed until it was to late.
their latest victem is Natalee Sarkisyan, a 17 year old girl who had cancer. the murderer’s said as it was “experimentle” and therefore they refused to cover the transplant needed until it was to late.
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I fully agree. All I can say is I work at a huge teaching hospital and that medicare and many other insurance companies 100% fully cover organ transplants. They are NOT experimental any longer. Also even if they had been, WHO IS THE INSURANCE carrier to decide who lives or dies?
I have seen and fought for people who had been denied for much less overall important issues than a life saving organ transplant. Still important issues for the person they invloved, just in a different way is all.
Years ago, I recall around the mid 1070’s things started to change rapidly to what we have today. I can still recall the hype about going from a Government run health system to the HMO, private crap we have now. And how living on state help as a child seeing the level and quality of care we got, go from good to horrid.
It amazes me to know that these companies hold so much power and control over not only our lives. Also the lives of everyone on insurance.
I have seen top level people at the hospital I work at get denied for needed medical tests, and such. Tests that could show signs of concer, or other issues that could allow for PREVENTION of more needed medical help. Something that we hear is the most imprtant thing these so called insurance SCAMMERS claim to want for the end user of the insurance.
Sadly these companies are not working for us. They could care less what the customer/members have to say or think about them. No matter how horrid they treat us.
What it comes down to for them is the Bottom Line. They wrok to serve the needs of the Board of Directors, and the share holders. (maybe one in the same thing.)
And the businss plan is simple: Grow the bottom line at ALL costs.
So sadly people die. People like me need to go through tons of bullcrap to qualify for a wheelchair, and I can get one of the standard ones. Not made for daily use, the user’s ease of use, confort. The standard wheelchair is made for short term, only as needed use. For me to get a daily use chair I need to go through qualifications in order to earn it. If they feel I need it. So also know first hand what these companies are like. And I have been lucky so far, it will only take five to seven months to get a wheelchair. After it taking four months to get the needed appointments to start this process. So nearly a year, before I submit my needs to my insurance company.
So the system these companies set up and design is not made for us the members at all in any way. It is designed to cause uneeded delay, and force people to either die trying to get needed medical help. Or, force people to just give up trying to fight them system.
All they are concerned with is how much money they can save. Well how much is a life worth? I think that is a PRICELESS thing, no matter the age of the person.
I say that if an insurance company can be shown to have held the POWER to save a life or improve the life of a member’s life. And that member dies as a result of the insurance company in effect saying YOU MUST DIE, WE the insurance company will not allow you access to the needed medical help to SAVE your life. Or imrpove life enough to make living it much easier.
I say then the BOARD of DIRECTORS and trhe share holders need to be accountable. Also the other people involved in the process to deny that needed access. They need to be charged with MURDER. First degree. As in they knew what the result of a denial would mean, and did it anyway. To me that is the same as using a gun to shoot someone dead.
If it is not made 100% clear that these companies are out to make profit at the cost of people’s lives… And people’s ability to live life as best they can with access to needed medical help… Then this will keep on going on, and getting worse.
After all the cost to pay off the family may cost Cigna $50 million even if it is $300 million. Cigna has padded so much bottom line cushion that they will delay payments on that for years. Maybe 10 or 20 or more, all the while they grow another pile just for the cost of that one case. In the end if the family does not just give up. Or they slowly get tired of fighting, may take a much lower payment just to stop the pain, and bullcrap.
No matter what amount can be won from Cigna, it will not even phase them in the least.
To phase them would mean sueing for 51% ownership of the company. And then cleaning house, and if interested in helping people… Try from scratch to see if it could work.
However that will not ever be allowed to take place. To much at stake. And what a member’s life is worthless? Sadly to Cigna and others that is just the cost of doing business with them. And it is nothing personal.
Can you tell this is a real issue with me.
The real way to fix this bullcrap… 100% Government run United Health Coverage for actual 100% Americans. Let’s go back to how it used to be until the mid-1970’s before the bullcrap started. Oddly no one likes to mention we at one time had so called social medicine and it worked 1,000% better than it does now. And it was not perfect.
I mean we have the Fire Dept, Police, Public Schools, Librarries, and more that is run by the government. Would we want to depend on any of those things becuase the company won the lowest bid to proctect us, Teach our kids?
To call the fire dept is a $400 fee, to have them come out, is another $1,000 fee. Plus payment for each person needed to help. We will not know how many will be needed. We need a $7,000 payment up front before we even leave the fire house. What ever we do not need will be refunded in 2 to 6 months. Long enough to keep the interest and built it to equal more than the 7 grand and give you back the change if any, with out ever hurting the bottom line.
So why is it we allow our HEALTH to be sold out like this? The indrance companies all those years back convinced people in power that the money to be made with out US the people knowing will be awesome.
Do you know that from the mid-1970’s the American public has paid over 50 million dollars a year more than what it would and once did cost to cover everyone for anything medical.
Add that up, 50 million from about 1974 or 1975 to today. Now imagine where all this EXTRA money goes? Not to you are me.
Also did anyone else notice when Drug companies started to adverise cost for medicine shot through the roof. When they say it is not to cover those costs… BULLCRAP..
OK, tell me what will cover all those ads on TV, online, in print, and radio? Not donations for sure. And, why is it that many parts of the world will not allow Pharm companies even advertise? They know the greed will cost the end user. And that will end up costing people hardships and lives.
HEALTH should be like police and fire and publice teaching… NO COST to the end user. Cost as in life being in the hands of CIGNA…
Cost in the terms of the lost homes, and homless people due to insane medical costs.
Costs due to people ending it due to the bullcrap system the insurance company makes for the members to climb through.
Cost in the lost time out of work, and lost jobs.
Cost in the broken families, and ill chidren who have no insurance or are like this 17 year old… Allowed to DIE at the hands of CIGNA. Yes Cigna you killed her.
Cost to everyone now paying for something that we see NOTHING of… We are paying over 50 million MORE THAN NEEDED to cover every single American WOMAN, CHILD, and MAN for 100% of ALL medical needs. We have been from the first days this HMO crap was put into place.
Add all that money up and it is insane. I want my money back honestly. As we are paying for something and get nothing… Is this not a SCAM?
CIGNA I pray that you go out of business due to this. Or that more people want to UNITE HEALTH CARE and let the Givernent run it AGAIN. It was not perfect, but at least that young lady WOULD NOT HAD DIED.
What happened to the Government of the PEOPLE, By the PEOPLE, For the PEOPLE? Let’s bring that back. Stop this bullcrap.
Pheww…. I think I have to much on this topic, and sorry for my rant everyone… But it is wrong. And bullcrap why people need to suffer all for greed.
CIGNA – Keep in mind you are run by humans… Those humans depend on other people in life to get throug it… Let’s hope that your Dr, your whoever was not one of that family and they do not forget to do something to prevent you from dieing.
Karma has a way to come back 100 times worse… So let’s hope your kid’s, your mom’s dad’s and such never need the help of someone who can DENY them the right to life, or living it as best they can…
Wheelman
wheelman - December 22, 2007 at 4:06 pm
I agree Wheelman. These insurance people will see that one day the tables will turn, and they will need the operation themselves, or someone they love. I bet it will be approved right away.
princemegajedi - December 22, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Yes our system has some problems but I don’t think Hillarycare 2.0 is any answer to the problem. I think congress needs to pass legislation to correct the problems caused by the insurance problem. This is one of the major problems that needs correction. Insurance companies can refuse to pay for procedures that could save someone’s life by saying the procedure is experimental. Insurance companies are run by idiots like Michael Crook.
Lonnie Walker
Abilene, Texas
lonnie walker - December 26, 2007 at 6:53 am